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Standard DCC
Installation includes all lamps provided for
in a model. In other words if we don't
have to drill holes we will light all lamps
on the model. In this case a PBL C-19
was lit with two different types of
luminaries. The headlamp is a standard
1.5v incandescent bulb and the markers are
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The cab light is
also a 1.5v incandescent bulb while the fire
box flicker light is a 14v incandescent
light. The functions for these lights
are controlled by a TCS FL4 and either a TCS
VR 1.5 or a 4700 ohm resistor. |
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This view shows
how our harness and plug assembly from the engine
connects to the tender. Removal of the front truck
is recommended to easily access the plug. Note how
the cable is snaked around parts and under bolsters.
This helps keep it from fouling the front truck.
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Here the front
truck has been replaced and the locomotive
is ready to be put on the track. Note
the red dots; these help indicate the
polarity of the trucks and the plugs.
In this case the locomotive has not had
split power pick up installed so both trucks
should be polarized to the fireman side. |
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Derrell Poole's
Overland 69, backdated to 1909 stands behind
Keith Hayes' Overland 71 as a stock model.
Note that both sets of markers have been
lit. C&S markers are some of the
smallest found on Sn3 engines and they must
be cored in order to take a very small light
source, in this case surface mount LEDs.
Both engines are fully lit and close
examination of the photo shows a reddish
cast under 69's firebox - the flicker lamp
in the engine's firebox. The 69 also
possesses a turned polished headlamp
reflector that has been focused. |
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This pair
of P-B-L C-18s are DCC equipped with Soundtraxx
Tsunami TSU750s and
Train Control Systems TSC FL-4 decoders.
Each has functioning headlamp, Marker Lamps, Cab
Light and Fire Box Flickers. 319 also has
a Backup Lamp. The QSI 1.1" speakers produce a
rich ton from the tenders. The entire
installation is clean and orderly and the
tenders break away from the engines easily.
Installations like these start at around 150.00
each and price depends on number of lamps and
other services offered. Each locomotive has our
basic programming applied. |
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There appears to
be a lot of activity in an undisclosed yard near the 7th
Street Shops. We count as many as seven
locomotives as well as a number of other interesting
pieces of equipment. Note the marker lamp
installed in the cupola of old C&S caboose No. 308.
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One can imagine
the amount of hissing and huffing in this evening view
where every lamp is lit. The only thing missing is
the aromatic smell of smoke only a true rail fan can
appreciate. In reality these engines are in a
testing stage of our installation of DCC. |
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Split Power
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One of our services
is available and beneficial to both
DC and DCC equipped locomotives. We call
it Split Power Pickup. It isn’t a new idea but
we do it well and it’s benefit is that it
spreads both the Engineer side driver pickup in
the engine and the Fireman side tender wheels in
the tender over the majority length of the
entire locomotive. Here’s how it works:
we install wipers
inside or underneath the Engine frame to collect
power from the Fireman side drivers. As you
probably know these are the insulated drivers.
we flip the
polarity of one of the tender trucks so that one
set of wheels will pick up on the Engineers
side.
The result is that the length of pickup on the
Engineer’s side is at least 1 ½ times what it
was before and the Fireman’s side as much as
twice the original length. Pickup from both
rails is now available from both units of the
locomotive. While drawbars are fairly reliable
this insures that connection isn’t the only
means of getting power picked up by the tender
or engine to the motor – or decoder. Overall the
locomotive becomes substantially more reliable
with fewer stalls thru rough or dirty track. We
can’t guarantee all stalls will be eliminated
but we do see a true reduction in our own
equipment.
This service
requires a number of parts that we create here
at 7th Street Shops and are not
available separately.
Price ranges between $100.00 and $200.00 depending
on Scale and type of engine. Most medium sized
HO locomotives can be converted for $100.00 Please
request “Split Power Pickup” when 7th
Street Shops does other work on your equipment.
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This is the
chassis of a Key Import HOn3 C&S No. 58. It is
equipped with insulated wipers to three of its fireman's
side drivers. This type of added pick up can be
installed in just about any locomotive frame. It
is our own design and parts are manufactured here.
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These
special mounting screws are used to insulate one of the
tender trucks from any
electrical conductivity. The bushings are cut
from black Delrin and threaded onto steel 2mm screws.
These parts are only available with our Split Power
Pickup Service. |
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When split power
pick up is installed we add wipers to the truck axles.
This by passes the problematic contact point of axle to
journal box. Note the wire and plug on the rear
truck. |
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Split power pick
up is complete for this tender. Note the red dots;
these mark the polarity of the trucks. Split power
pick up isolates the rear truck and reverses its
polarity so that it picks up from the engineer's side.
Together with the wipered fireman's side drivers the
span of pick up is extended on both sides to nearly the
length of the entire locomotive. |
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We also
use tender truck wipers from Mikes Narrow Gauge {http://www.nyrs.com/specialitems.htm}
on the insulated truck where they can be adapted. We can
add a wiper to the other truck at your request. |
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Our standard
Sound Decoder Installation Service includes the
following:
1) An evaluation of the engine and how it runs. We check
for engine balance as well as floating drivers (**see
explanation below). Our fee will cover a minimal
amount of adjustment or repair but if a driver is out of
quarter or the engine is out of balance or other major
concerns are found additional fees may apply.
2) Careful disassembly to ensure the safety of any paint
and delicate parts. WE do NOT loose screws!
3) Removal of old sound system, speakers, lighting
units, smoke units or decoders. If you want these parts
returned to you, you must request this specifically.
Otherwise we will not be responsible for their
disposition.
4) Isolation of the motor. This is Very Important and
can VOID the manufacturer's Warranty of their decoder. Older brass engines are
notorious for leaky motors - yes even can motors.
Sometimes the leak is not detectable unless the motor is
running. We arbitrarily isolate the motor (even P-B-Ls)
to be on the safe side. In most cases our standard
fee will cover this task but there instances where
isolating the motor will require machine work. Our
shop rate of $35.00 an hour shall apply to isolate
motors that require machine work. The client will
be notified in advance with an additional estimate.
All parts required shall be billed to the client.
5) Professional Installation of decoders, wiring
harnesses, speakers, wipers and cams, VR units and
resistors. All harness are tied for neatness and all
joints are completely insulated so there is no chance of
shorting. We prefer that you allow us to obtain the
speaker since the size will have to fit the location
(typically the tender). We will measure and find the
largest high bass speaker we can install without
extraordinary modification.
6) Two lamps or lamp sets (i.e. headlamp and firebox).
If an engine already has lamps or the provision for
lamps (such as drilled markers or train boards) we shall
install these lamps at no extra charge. Any
installation of lamps that require machine work shall be
installed at the rate of $35.00 an hour. In most
cases this should not exceed $35.00. This work
will be done only upon approval of the client. We
routinely replace existing bulbs (except axial bulbs in
markers). We do not know the history of existing
bulbs and since we don't charge for bulbs in a standard
installation we think it is to everyone's advantage.
7) The installation of the mechanical wiper for
the chuff. Even if a cam is not present and there is no
special modification required to install a cam we will
install the mechanical chuff at your request - you must
request this. However you will be responsible for the
cost of the parts. This will include the cam (approx.
20.00) and the wiper with mount (10.00). (Please
note that anytime a driver is pulled from it's axle we
must requarter the driver set at a minimum of $50.00 or
more.)
8) Basic programming (Address, lamp buttons mapping and
other fundamental CVs to ensure the engine runs normally
and everything works properly). We will provide CV
data sheet with your model. Please keep this sheet
as a reference and if the model needs to be serviced
please return a copy with the model.
9) Our standard installation includes two decoders, over
sized stall capacitors and break away plugs this is how
we do it and we feel it is the best service and
arrangement available. If you wish to hard wire
your tender to your engine we feel we are not the proper
service for you. It is very difficult to handle a
locomotive that is hard wired and we often must handle
the locomotive after installation is complete.
10) We can no longer offer multiple engine discounts.
11) All wires, screws, resistors and consumable
supplies. Lamps, special plugs,
decoders, VR units, cams and wipers with holder (if not
present on the engine already) will be charged in
addition to the installation fee at our retail prices. You are
welcome to supply any of these new parts under the
condition described in "client provided parts" above.
12) A guarantee of our work (not the decoders or VRs as
they are the domain of the manufacturer) for 90 days -
you will only be required to pay the postage both ways.
Decoder Installation Fee - $160.00 per engine plus
parts (approximately $210.00). $180.00 if any
major components are supplied by the client.
Please note the following;
Before sending your order please contact us to clarify
what parts you will provide and what we will provide, as
well as other considerations.
When sending your order please include the engine(s),
naturally, parts you will provide, and at least 50% of
the fee we agreed upon, plus;
100% of return postage and insurance, cost of part we
will provide, and a detailed description of what you
wish to have done. (In the future - shortly - we will
publish a printable PDF order form for your
convenience). For postage determination our Zip Code is
80226.
Our turn around time
is dependent on our backlog of work. Currently we
have a number of projects on the bench but indicators
suggest that this backlog is going to fill up fast.
Please don't wait as we schedule engines on a first
come, first serve basis.
Naturally it must be possible for the decoder and
speaker and other part to fit into the engine. We
reserve the right to refuse any job. This description is
subject to change as we find necessary. PLEASE read and
understand it before each order is placed. We don't
want you to be unhappy with our work.
Example charge:
Installation
Labor Fee: $160.00 ($180.00 if any major
components, ie decoders, VR 1.5, speakers etc)
Parts:
Soundtraxx TSU 750 $130.00
TCS FL- 4 $21.95
TCS VR 1.5 $11.99
Soundtraxx HB Speaker w/enclosure approximately $16.00
One 4 - way and one 2 - way plug $12.00
Stall Capacitor - $3.00
(Ask us about
surface mount LEDs in marker and train board lamp
holders)
Total Cost of
Installation = $355.00
**Floating
Drivers Explained
Manufacturers
routinely install axle springs that are too strong for
the weight of the engine. This often prevents some
of the drivers from contacting the rail. In
particular we see the two center drivers on a 2-8-0 in
this condition. A little thought reveals that if
two of your drivers on either side of the engine are not
contacting the rail you are only benefiting from 50% of
your engines potential pick up ability and tractive
effort. Floating drivers cause stalls
especially after DCC has been installed. The fix
is simple - replace the springs. We can replace
springs at $40.00 a chassis. The benefit will be
more reliable pick up and better traction. |
All Scales HO & Larger -
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